Putin: “I was naive about Western intent”

20 Dec

In yesterday’s post – After the war, can Russia win the peace? – I wrote …

Western ruling elites have shown repeatedly that Russia cannot trust them: America’s through a thousand deeds and utterances to the effect they recognise no friendship, only marriages of convenience, and will renege on any treaty the moment it no longer suits their perceived interests; Europe’s through decades of subservience to Washington, however harmful to their own citizens. 

… to which I attached this footnote:

Aside from the question of how much European leaders knew in advance of America’s sabotage of Nord Stream, the most striking recent example of bad faith this side of the pond is the boast by Angela Merkel, confirmed by François Hollande, that Minsk had been a decoy to string Russia along. By all accounts President Putin, a longstanding Europhile resistant to those Kremlin voices – their suspicions now confirmed – insisting that the West would never accept Russia as a peer, was genuinely and personally hurt by the former German Chancellor’s thrice repeated triumphalism. 1

(The context for both, apropos a Naked Capitalism feature two days ago, being that the peace will be determined neither by Zelensky’s “messianic” fantasies nor by the Will of Washington. It will be determined by what the Kremlin deems necessary to ensure that the aims of its military operation – a neutral Ukraine, denazification and (after nine years of war) self determination in the east 2 – are more than temporary achievements pending Western renewal and resurgence.)

On his sub stack today Andrew Korybko addresses this. In determining how best to bake in the terms of Russia’s victory, Mr Putin can be expected to be what he has hitherto – contrary to what the cartoon caricatures of Western demonising would have us believe – not been vis a vis the West.

A mistrustful hawk.


Putin’s Admission Of Naivety About The West Signals His New Stance Towards Peace Talks

He signaled that he won’t let himself be duped a third time after falling for Merkel and Zelensky’s tricks. A Korean-like “land-for-peace” armistice deal does entail some benefits for Russia, but the Kremlin isn’t interested in any agreement that only pauses the conflict. It would have to also achieve Russia’s three stated goals.

A lot of Russian-friendly folks across the world were taken aback by President Putin’s candid admission in a recent interview that he was naïve about the West up until recently. He acknowledged his mistake in thinking that they no longer considered Russia a rival after the USSR’s dissolution brought about the end of communism in his country. Nowadays he’s convinced that the West was plotting to Balkanize Russia all along after they dropped their friendly charade throughout the course of the ongoing special operation.

To be sure, President Putin already signaled as much a year back after former German Chancellor Angela Merkel boasted about how she duped him with the Minsk Accords, which she said her country never had any intention of honoring and only agreed to for the purpose of buying Ukraine valuable time to rearm. This revelation was followed several months later in March by Russian National Security chief Nikolai Patrushev casually mentioning in an interview that the US had actually controlled her for years.

These reminders make one wonder why President Putin returned to the subject in his recent interview, which was aired shortly after his annual Q&A session where he said that he’d warn his past self from 2000 “against naivety and excessive trust in our so-called partners.” This coincided with the Ukrainian Conflict winding down after the failed counteroffensive, of which there was no Plan B, thus explaining the popularity of former NATO Supreme Commander Admiral James Stavridis’ proposal from November.

His suggestion for a Korean-like “land-for-peace” armistice deal, which was initially floated by Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy over the summer and then taken up earlier this month by Senator JD Vance, has since attracted the attention of the Financial Times’ chief foreign affairs columnist. Gideon Rachman quoted an unnamed former US official who explicitly said that “We have to flip the narrative and say that Putin has failed” in order to manufacture the pretext for freezing the conflict.

That columnist then referenced the abovementioned proposal without attribution to either of those figures who’ve publicly embraced it as “one alternative to a formal agreement”, which he justified by spinning Ukraine’s defeat as a victory over Russia with several misleading arguments. After being duped by Merkel with Minsk and by Zelensky during the spring 2022 peace talks that ultimately fell through due to Western pressure, however, President Putin is unlikely to agree to any simple armistice deal.

He already declared during the previously cited Q&A session last week that his country will achieve its stated goals of demilitarizing Ukraine, denazifying it, and ensuring its neutrality through military means if diplomatic ones don’t suffice. This was followed a few days later by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov recalling how the American think tank experts who he met with in New York during his trip in April admitted that the US only wanted to pause the conflict to rearm Ukraine and then resume hostilities.

By candidly admitting that he used to be naïve about the West’s intentions towards Russia, President Putin was therefore signaling that he won’t let himself be duped a third time after falling for Merkel and Zelensky’s tricks as was earlier explained. That said, a Korean-like “land-for-peace” armistice deal does entail some benefits for Russia, but the Kremlin isn’t interested in any agreement that only pauses the conflict like the American think tank experts who Lavrov spoke with earlier this year suggested.

This proposal could form the basis for resuming peace talks, but only with a view towards advancing Russia’s stated goals in the conflict through diplomatic means that would result in a legally binding agreement that sustainably ensures its security, the details of which can only be speculated. Even so, it’s likely that Ukraine wouldn’t be allowed to formally join NATO and a mechanism would be devised for monitoring strict limitations on its armed forces, military-industrial complex, and foreign arms transfers.

The West doesn’t yet seem ready for such significant security concessions, which would be very difficult for even its most masterful perception managers to spin as anything other than a defeat for their side, so the chances of that happening absent some game-changing developments are nil for now. The most realistic way for bringing about that scenario is for Russia to achieve a military breakthrough by sometime early next year, though Zelensky wants to thwart that by fortifying the entire front.

If his increasingly mutinous and rapidly depleting armed forces fail to prevent that from happening, then the “government of national unity” that an Atlantic Council expert just demanded that he assemble in a piece earlier this week for Politico could become a fait accompli. The purpose of doing so would be to give Zelensky a “face-saving” exit from the political scene and manufacture the pretext for reversing Kiev’s ban on peace talks with Russia out of desperation to stop its advance by capitulating to its terms.

The worst that could transpire if that doesn’t unfold is that NATO launches a conventional intervention into Ukraine aimed at drawing a “red line” as far east as possible for stopping the Russian steamroller. The risks of a larger war by miscalculation would briefly spike and the inevitable post-conflict military-strategic reality would be equally more challenging for NATO and Russia than if Kiev capitulated. Nevertheless, that might be a gamble that President Putin is willing to take after finally losing his naivety.

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  1. Kremlin ‘hardliners’ – or as they would say, realists – were not the only ones to deem their president credulous. Western observers – political realists like John Mearsheimer, also Jeffrey Sachs and former Reagan appointees like the late Stephen Cohen and Paul Craig Roberts – have argued for years, implicitly or in PCR’s case out loud – see my post of a year ago, Is Vladimir Putin too soft? – that Russia’s turning the other cheek to the West’s provocations posed as great a threat to world peace as the said provocations.

    (It’s well over 50 years since I studied Russian history for A level but it seems likely that the Boyars who opposed the occidentalism of Peter the Great – a man, like Charles de Gaulle, admired by Mr Putin – were forerunners of today’s Kremlin ‘hardliners’. Since the days of Christopher Columbus, the rise of Eurasia has been a nightmare scenario for Western supremacists. In their opposition both to the early 18th century Tsar, and to the 21st century RF president, did Boyar and RF hardliner alike show greater awareness than their respective leaders of a truth running deeper than the surface forms taken by either the old or new cold wars on Russia and China?)

  2. Andrew Korybko and others express Russia’s three stated aims differently. They speak of “demilitarisation” rather than “self determination in the east”. I regard the two as one and the same. Russia will not allow Donetz and Luganz – let alone Crimea – to once more be attacked or dictated to by far right Banderite nationalists in Western Ukraine. But even this distinction is now academic. Whatever other changed realities this war brings, two of the most assured are that all three regions will (a) stay within the Russian Federation and (b) be delighted with the fact.

7 Replies to “Putin: “I was naive about Western intent”

  1. The Prologue (as Frankie Howard might say)

    Every time I’ve read a piece from Andrew Korybko I’ve had had this nagging feeling of deja vue which I’ve been unable to pin down. Until this morning.

    Back in the day, as a newly minted hairy arsed jointer on BT, I came back to my own team from a cushy three month loan out of the cold wet winter weather in the then newly constructed and yet to be opened Barnsley Telephone Exchange to find I’d been transferred to a new team dedicated to providing services on new housing sites.

    Usually, in those days, a single team would number in the region of 20-25. This team consisted of only six jointer’s and was made up of all the people at the depot the management did not know what to do with. People who did not fit in. Wide-boys and odd balls. Characters in other words.

    One of these characters was an ex-Guardsman affectionately known as ‘Shunter’. George was a smashing bloke. A gentleman in fact. The problem was he only had one pace, hence the name ‘Shunter’. You couldn’t work WITH George, you worked AROUND him and just let him get on with whatever task needed to be carried out at his own plodding pace whilst whoever was teamed up with him made sure – admittedly, usually on paper – that you both got in a days productivity for two men.


    Mr Korybko seems to be gradually coming round to recognise, at least in part, what many others have been pointing out for some time.

    It was only five days ago, in a review which included the recent two part Washington Post article……


    ……that, having provided this quote – apparently from the WP article….

    “JD Vance Is Right: Russia Won’t Invade NATO If Ukraine Cedes Land As Part Of A Peace Deal”,

    ….he immediately followed up with this apparent opinion…

    ‘which is why former NATO Supreme Commander Admiral Stavridis’ Ramaswamy-inspired land-for-peace proposal from early November should be considered by the West in order to freeze the conflict and prevent a Russian breakthrough. That in turn requires Zelensky to either recommence peace talks or be replaced if he doesn’t, but regardless of what happens, the point is that the West didn’t expect this dilemma.’

    A line of argument which seemed to ignore some rather salient issues such as:

    – the immediate context of Russia’s stated aims of de-militarisation and de-nazification – which Korybko is now at least making explicit reference to in this later post recognising that the Russian objectives are not based on such trans-actionable criteria as ‘land for peace’ which he was seemingly pushing as a solution only the other day in the December 15th NC article;

    – the wider context of Russia’s overall security objectives of pushing NATO back to previous borders – as detailed in the December 2021 draft treaties to the USA and NATO – which Koybko still appears to ignore.*

    *How else to interpret this statement from the more recent article quoted above?….


    “This proposal could form the basis for resuming peace talks, but only with a view towards advancing Russia’s stated goals in the conflict through diplomatic means that would result in a legally binding agreement that sustainably ensures its security, the details of which can only be speculated.”

    end of quote.

    ….which makes no reference whatsoever to the details of Russia’s security requirements which have been publicly available, accessible and known for over two years in these two draft treaties from December 2021 but which instead are presented here as “details of which can only be speculated”.

    Followed by this gem….

    “Even so, it’s likely that Ukraine wouldn’t be allowed to formally join NATO”

    ….which, given the Russians have been shouting this very loudly since the 2007 Munich Security Conference, can only elicit the response ‘no shit, Sherlock!’

    In the December 15th piece Korybko makes reference to the ‘magical thinking’ of the Western so called ‘elites’. A significant feature of which is that of consistently projecting onto Russia what the West thinks its aims, goals and objectives are or should be rather than what Russia states they are. Which is where Korybko seemed to be coming from in his article a few days ago. A feature which is still evident in his more recent piece.

    Thus, the other problematic evident issue still being flogged like the proverbial dead horse is the basic assumption that having been fooled twice already Russia is necessarily going to enter into any negotiation with those it knows are non-agreement capable.

    For sure, in terms of the immediate conflict in Ukraine, it is conceivable under very specific circumstances that Russia may at some point sit down with the monkey rather than the organ grinder to deal specifically with Ukraine [the wider geo-political security issues being outside the scope of Ukraine to deal with].

    However, such a scenario is in Long Shot Kick the Bucket territory given the military and industrial capacity mismatch which exists not only between Russia and Ukraine but also between Russia and NATO – both of which are having their arse handed to them.

    A mismatch detailed in this assessment, quoted by Simplicus the other day….


    ……from a Ukrainian exile in the USA called Arsetovich:

    “The problem is not that they can’t give us money.

    The problem is that they can’t give us shells.

    Forty billion was thrown into a widely publicized microchip plant in Phoenix (Arizona), like a transfer from Taiwan.

    The plant is standing still, there are no workers.

    They tried to recruit Taiwanese, but it didn’t work either.

    The Americans cannot launch the military-industrial complex, under the existing system, neither with Moroccans, nor with Mexicans, nor with dances, nor with tambourines.

    The fundamental motivation of the market is financial speculation.

    Arms companies show growth in capitalization, but never show growth in production (because there is practically none).

    If production grows, it does so extremely slowly, so as not to break capitalization schemes.

    Their task is to increase the value of shares, and not to create new equipment.

    Tens of billions are being invested, but there is no growth in production.

    And it won’t, for this it is necessary to change the entire paradigm…..”

    An assessment valid just as much for any activity requiring organisation across an increasingly atomised and collapsing Collective West as it is for arms production.

    The question is clear to even a blind man on a galloping horse: Why would Russia need to negotiate anything short of a capitulation arising from an increasingly evident systemic collapse both in Ukraine and across the Collective West?

    Still, unlike ‘Shunter’ at least Korybko seems to be slowly catching up in some places.

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